1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 The daughter and son-in-law were coming up to each side of the colony pass and as near 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:13,320 as I, it sure was about 920, between 9 and 930, and it was not raining, it was dry, and 3 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:18,000 I was laying on the front gate against the window and looking straight ahead, and as 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:23,360 we were coming up the hill I kept noticing this cloud with the flash kind of like a neon 5 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:28,120 light, and the first thought was that it was lightning behind the cloud, you know, and 6 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,440 I got looking, the sky was all clear with stars in it, and I raised up and I told Ted, 7 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,440 I said, what the heck is that? 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:34,440 I said, you know, storm up there? 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:35,440 And he says, well, he says, did you notice it? 10 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:40,440 And I said, yeah, and the kids in the back says, my gosh, we're getting into a thunderstorm, 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:41,440 it isn't even raining. 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:46,440 And so we kept looking at it, and I looked all around, the sky is clear, and Ted says, 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,440 well, it's just one big cloud like that. 14 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,440 So as we were approaching, I can't estimate it must have been maybe three miles to the 15 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:54,440 top of the pass. 16 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,040 As we came along the highway, and we noticed the cars were slowing down, but nobody saw 17 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,920 it, and we stopped, and of course we slowed down, and over to the right, there was a clearing 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:08,400 in the area, and I would say probably about two or three blocks off of the highway, you 19 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,720 could see just straight landing, it dropped down like kind of a gully down below, which 20 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,720 you couldn't see the bottom of, but the land was straightened and it dropped. 21 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:21,160 And in this area was this huge light like, you couldn't see an actual light, just a 22 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:26,040 different reflection like, it was just millions of neon lights in it, and it was going kind 23 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,040 of off and on, like a heartbeat. 24 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:33,040 And as it did this, we could see where this was shooting up into the sky and making this 25 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,040 cloud do this. 26 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,040 And we kind of slowed down, and we all were wondering what in the world my daughter who 27 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,040 always says that she's seeing thoughts there, and she says, my godmom, she's just 28 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,040 flying thoughts, and I go, I see the highways probably doing some work, and they lift this 29 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,040 up. 30 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,040 And Ted says, well, I wonder why the flash, and he says it's the weirdest thing he ever 31 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:55,040 seen, and it was foggy in some areas, and there was just a light fog hanging in there 32 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,040 that made it look like, oh, I guess kind of a misty looking thing. 33 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:04,040 But it was just something I had never seen before, and it's been bugging me, and I told 34 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,040 Ted, I said, well, we should call or stop in North Bend, so we followed the traffic, and 35 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,040 there wasn't one car ahead of us that stopped in North Bend, everybody just kept running 36 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,040 and going through. 37 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,040 Well, I was going to call yesterday, and I didn't know who to call, so when I come to 38 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,040 work this morning, I tell them to keep quiet, you're going to think I'm nuts, but I just 39 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,040 told them what we've seen. 40 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,040 And this one gal, she says, well, start calling around and tell somebody why not what it is, 41 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,040 because it's really been bothering me. 42 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:30,040 But it was, I've never seen anything like this, and you couldn't see no actual anything 43 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:36,040 except the reflection or the lighting, the glow, and it would go off and on. 44 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:41,040 So I called Bellevue State Patrol that the Al Times told me, because they didn't have 45 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,040 the I-5, so I was freeway. 46 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,040 To see if there was any construction, so she got on the line and she said there was no 47 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:52,040 construction of any type going on up there where they were using any lights, so I can't 48 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,040 figure out what in the world this strange looking thing was. 49 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,040 And I was wondering if you could get any other calls. 50 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,040 Not from that area, no. 51 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,040 Well, it was really weird. 52 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:07,040 Okay, now, can you give us any estimate as the exact location that you were involved there? 53 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:12,040 Well, it was the east side, it seemed like we were just about to the top of the pass, 54 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:17,040 probably about two miles from the top, and it was on the right side of the highway, on 55 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,040 my side. 56 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,040 I see. 57 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,040 And we were just in the middle of the battle, and we weren't. 58 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:27,040 We would pass the, I first noticed the cloud shorten after Lake Ketchels, that on the left 59 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,040 side, that big lake. 60 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,040 Right. 61 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,040 Okay, as we were coming around up in there, you kind of get a straight highway, and this 62 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:40,040 is when we noticed this cloud business, this one cloud, and then we drove up, oh, I don't 63 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,040 know, I couldn't even tell you, it didn't take too far, and then this clearing was there. 64 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:49,040 And then this big, round, huge, glowed light that was going off and on. 65 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:54,040 Quite, well, it wasn't a fast off and on, it was just like a regular neon light, and it 66 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,040 reminded me of the reflections of neon lighting, very, very bright. 67 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:03,040 And then, of course, we went on by, and then I turned around, we kept watching in the back 68 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,040 window, and you could still see it doing it. 69 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:10,040 And then as we were driving in closer to Seattle, we had gone on how far we had gone, and in 70 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:16,040 the hill, I kept looking at everything then, I noticed this real bright green type, shiny 71 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:21,040 light, and it kind of made a big glare, and then it disappeared, and then it kind of, in 72 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,040 the trees, this was in the trees, you could see this type thing again, and so Ketchels 73 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,040 was probably beacons for an airplane, but as we thought they were red, I don't know, but 74 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:34,040 this is an extremely bright, clear green, and then the same type of a glow. 75 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,040 And I think that, and I'm like, God, what in the world is happening around here? 76 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,040 We travel that path all the time, and never have I seen anything like that. 77 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:45,040 And I'm not cracking up, but I am quite concerned because I can't believe what I think. 78 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,040 Okay, do you have the approximate location for that green object? 79 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:52,040 Oh, Gully, you know, I'd have to ask my husband. 80 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:57,040 But it was in a more dense, wooded area, quite close to the highway. 81 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,040 Yes. 82 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,040 Like coming into North Bend, I think. 83 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,040 Okay, now getting back to this first object, you say that it was in a Gully? 84 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,040 No. 85 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,040 Was this a very deep Gully or fairly shallow? 86 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:12,040 I would say that it was, I couldn't tell because what I'm trying to say is the land was level. 87 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,040 Yes. 88 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,040 And you could see the horizon of the kind of drop down, and how big it, how far it dropped down. 89 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,040 I don't know, but you couldn't see. 90 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,040 My daughter said she'd seen something extremely bright in it, but I didn't. 91 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,040 All I seen was the reflection of the glowing light. 92 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,040 Okay, would you say that this was sitting on the ground? 93 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,040 Yeah. 94 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,040 Okay. 95 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,040 And was it dark when you came through there? 96 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,040 Black, yeah. 97 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,040 It was dark in the morning, around the 30s. 98 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,040 Is there any possibility you would recognize that again if you went through? 99 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,040 I think so. 100 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,040 Okay. 101 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,040 I would have. 102 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,040 And this was just all light. 103 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,040 Now what was the color of the light? 104 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:55,040 The same color of the reflection of the neon light in the night was, well it was definite white, 105 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,040 but yet kind of this Gully, it's very Gully. 106 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,040 Florescent type? 107 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:00,040 Yeah. 108 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,040 Okay. 109 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,040 And it pulsated very similar to a heartbeat. 110 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,040 Right. 111 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,040 Okay. 112 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,040 Were there any other colored lights involved? 113 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,040 No. 114 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,040 Okay, all white. 115 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,040 And then it was foggy in the area. 116 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,040 Now whether this was fog or what, I don't know, just kind of hanging over. 117 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,040 It was the areas looking. 118 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,040 This is what upset me so bad. 119 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:24,040 And it looked like vapors, but yet it looked like it could have been a light fog or something. 120 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,040 That's about the best I can explain it. 121 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:32,040 Okay, do you have any idea just a visual estimate of how far away the object was? 122 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:41,040 I would say probably a mile to two miles in at that far, a mile in, not even a mile maybe. 123 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:46,040 So Steve and my husband probably, they're better at distance than I am. 124 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,040 Yes. 125 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,040 And he was telling me, I said, did you call anybody on that night? 126 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,040 I said no, I don't know where it started. 127 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,040 I said, I think we're nuts. 128 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,040 And he says, nuts, Kelly. 129 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:55,040 He says, I can't believe it. 130 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,040 My daughter didn't sleep all night long. 131 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,040 She's been upset ever since she's seen it. 132 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,040 Because it's, I don't know, it's just something you just are breathtaking when you seek it. 133 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,040 It's so strange. 134 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,040 Yes. 135 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,040 And it's the honest I got through. 136 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,040 I'm no letter, cook or anything else. 137 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,040 I'm here, I work at a hospital. 138 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:15,040 And it's just been driving me nuts in one of the lab checks as you call in and find out 139 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,040 or you're not going to rest until you do. 140 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,040 And I said, they just tell me there were construction lab. 141 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,040 I would be satisfied. 142 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,040 But there's nobody that would have an area that big with construction lights. 143 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,040 I mean, in that type of a glow. 144 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:29,040 Well, we've been getting a lot of UFO reports in this area in the last week. 145 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,040 Well, I believe it now. 146 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,040 After saying that, there's no way I was against them. 147 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:38,040 But after saying that, I'm a firm believer now because I just know that wasn't right. 148 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,040 Well, what you have described is it fits the pattern. 149 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:47,040 So it's really no different to just pulsating light, especially this is what is known as 150 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,040 electromagnetic energy field which surrounds the vehicle itself. 151 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,040 And it lights up just like a light bulb or a fluorescent tube. 152 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,040 And this is one cloud. 153 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,040 The cloud kept pulsating. 154 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:05,040 And in the center of the cloud, it was more predominant kind of a, well, I don't know if it was 155 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:09,040 the orange, dirty yellow or something in the center. 156 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,040 And it just looked the whole entire cloud. 157 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,040 This is why we thought it was lightning at first. 158 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:19,040 But after saying this, and you could see the vapor, not vapors, but the lighting was just 159 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,040 like, well, when they opened a new building, you know, they had these big lights outside. 160 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,040 Right. 161 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,040 And this is how it, this is what was affecting the cloud. 162 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,040 I see. 163 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:38,040 If you would like, I could have my son-in-law or husband call in and they could give you more detail on the distance and stuff like, you know, that, because I know a big judge 164 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,040 the distance is just, if that would help you any. 165 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,040 Yes, could I have your son-in-law's name? 166 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,040 Steve. 167 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,040 And that happened at about 9.20 p.m. when that was... 168 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:55,040 Yeah, because we got into Seattle about, we got home about 10.30 and I was trying to look at my watch. 169 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,040 I told Ted, I said, I want to see what time it is. 170 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,040 And I couldn't see my watch. 171 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,040 And he looked at his and he said, looks to be around 9.20. 172 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,040 Uh-huh. 173 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,040 So I, it's just, it's just really weird. 174 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,040 I feel better after talking to you that I haven't flipped my litter. 175 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,040 I think that's, that's, that's the way it is. 176 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,040 I mean, to be honest with God, true. 177 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,040 And that was Monday night? Sunday. Sunday night. 178 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,040 That would be the night of the 31st. 179 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,040 Right. 180 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,040 They're the ones that gave you our number? 181 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,040 Yeah. I see, okay. 182 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:30,040 And you figure that was about two feet, or excuse me, two miles from the summit on the east side? 183 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,040 Yeah, well Steve and Ted could tell you that more. 184 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:36,040 I would assume because I was so engrossed and so excited about that. 185 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:41,040 And then after seeing this other thing that I couldn't, it just, we weren't to the top of the patch yet. 186 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,040 I know that. 187 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:47,040 And I think I would recognize the area again because you're driving along and it's very wood 188 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,040 and all of a sudden there's this big hole in the trees that are cleared out 189 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,040 and then you can see quite a ways into the, you know, back in there. 190 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,040 Right. 191 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,040 And then you hit a bunch of trees again, you can't see. 192 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:58,040 Okay. 193 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:03,040 But it's not my imagination, I'll tell you. 194 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,040 Well, a lot of people are seeing a lot of things. 195 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:13,040 Yeah, I can believe it. I kind of left at it, but after the four of us slowed down the car and looked at it 196 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:18,040 and then when my daughters started getting excited, we weren't cranking up, that's for sure. 197 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,040 We're also coming back from east of the mountains. 198 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,040 Oh, great. 199 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,040 And I thought I'd just give you a buzz. 200 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,040 Okay, so do you give us a description of what you did see? 201 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:33,040 Well, it's about a mile or a half a mile before you got to the summit. 202 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:39,040 And what it was like, it was something that was art-welding at night with a super big art-weather. 203 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,040 And that's what it was illuminating, the clouds. 204 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,040 And that's about what it looked like. 205 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:47,040 It was white in color and it was flickering on and off. 206 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:53,040 And finally, just before we got to the summit, there's a large gap and it was a real super bright light, real bright. 207 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:58,040 And it lit up the whole area, but it was still flickering, it wasn't a steady light. 208 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,040 And that's about basically what it was. 209 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,040 Okay, what was the color of this light as you saw? 210 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,040 It was white. 211 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:05,040 Straight white. 212 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,040 Yeah, it was white, but it was illuminating a large area. 213 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:15,040 And I just forgot it, you know, when I passed by it, I just figured someone was working down in here or whatever. 214 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:21,040 And when Ted was talking about it this morning, I said, hey, that's all the same thing. 215 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,040 No, you said it was illuminating a large area. 216 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,040 Are you speaking in a ground area? 217 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,040 Okay, it was kind of hard to say. 218 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,040 It was illuminating the clouds, the clouds were low tonight. 219 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,040 I see. 220 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,040 And by what I mean by large, large area of clouds. 221 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,040 Right. 222 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,040 As far as ground space, I don't know. 223 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,040 Okay, and did you stop or did you just proceed on? 224 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,040 No, no, I just proceeded on by. 225 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:48,040 But you could see it for a good, I'd say a good half a mile through a mile. 226 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,040 I see. 227 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:53,040 And it was almost right on top of the summit there. 228 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:59,040 And, like I said, I just forgot about it until Ted and I talked about it this morning. 229 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,040 But I don't know. 230 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,040 And you figured the time about what on that? 231 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,040 9.30, 9.30 quarter to 10. 232 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,040 Okay. 233 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,040 You know. 234 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:15,040 Okay, do you have any visual estimates of how far away that was or how far it was off the highway? 235 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,040 The highway? 236 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,040 I'd say a good half a mile. 237 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,040 Half a mile, okay. 238 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,040 Yeah, or... 239 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,040 Yeah, I'd say half. 240 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:28,040 Okay, now would you say that the object or the light itself was on the ground? 241 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:33,040 Yeah, because it was, I wouldn't say on the ground. 242 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:38,040 But it was going up into the clouds. 243 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,040 Right, it was going up into the clouds. 244 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:44,040 Right, so it would have to be from the ground up, but I don't know how close the ground was. 245 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,040 I see, okay. 246 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,040 Do you hear that with anything for size? 247 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,040 For size? 248 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,040 God, no, not really. 249 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:02,040 Okay, just holding any small article at arm's length about how big would it be? 250 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,040 Like a coin or a... 251 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,040 Oh, you mean the space at the left? 252 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,040 Right, right. 253 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,040 Oh, God, no, I would say maybe half a football field. 254 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,040 A half a football field, okay. 255 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,040 Yeah, that was illuminating up the clouds. 256 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,040 It was a very satellite, it was a large area. 257 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,040 Yeah, okay. 258 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,040 And time of observation. 259 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,040 Time to record it to 10. 260 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,040 Yeah, okay. 261 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,040 Well, this is great. 262 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,040 We're trying to get enough data so we can get up there. 263 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:37,040 You figured about one and a half miles from the summit. 264 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,040 Hmm, either, yeah, one to a half mile. 265 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,040 One to a half mile, okay. 266 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,040 Let's see if we can get somebody up there and take a look at that area. 267 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,040 Well, we sure appreciate your calling, Larry. 268 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,040 Okay. 269 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,040 And if you see anything in the future, let us know. 270 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,040 And if we get any real good information on this, 271 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,040 why if we happen to get a crew up there and find anything, we'll let you know. 272 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,040 Yeah, fine, thank you. 273 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,040 Thanks again. 274 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,040 This is a UFO reporting center in Seattle. 275 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,040 I wonder if we could get a description of what you saw. 276 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:11,040 Oh, well, I didn't even get the good shot because I was sitting at the car and my wife thought. 277 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:15,040 She said, I had to start a light, you know, because it was so foggy up there 278 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,040 just before you start going up the path. 279 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,040 And, you know, you couldn't help but miss it, you know, all the lights being on. 280 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:24,040 And it was just like a radiation flow or something, you know, it was just up and down, 281 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,040 but it was so foggy, you could see it in the clouds up there. 282 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,040 It was really bright, you know, and we were just driving through, 283 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,040 and I wasn't seeing anything up, and I said, 284 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,040 oh, they must be working on the road, there's some construction, you know, 285 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,040 because it was so bright. 286 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,040 And, you know, my wife, she's got, they have a Monte Carlo, 287 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,040 and she was looking through the little window there, and then she goes, 288 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,040 no, look, it's white, it's white, I'm going, oh, yeah, sure, you know. 289 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,040 She goes, no, look at it, you know, but we kept on, 290 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,040 apparently we kept on looking behind us, and it kept on, 291 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,040 just keep on going and going and going, you know. 292 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,040 And so we didn't figure what it was, but, you know, 293 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,040 I thought it was going to train on construction, 294 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,040 but on Sunday night, we weren't sure. 295 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,040 It was really bright, you know, 296 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,040 you couldn't help but miss it if you're on the freeway. 297 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:06,040 Now, how far would you say just a visual estimate was the object? 298 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,040 Oh, about a half a mile. 299 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,040 I see. 300 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:14,040 And it was all light, white light? 301 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,040 Yeah, it would just reflect, you know, 302 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,040 just like fog was coming, you know, it just shone right straight up in the air. 303 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,040 Uh-huh. 304 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,040 And we looked, we went by, you could just go right through the trees 305 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,040 and see it, just bright and shiny, there it was, all light. 306 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:30,040 And it was, you know, it was kind of different, you know. 307 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,040 So that's what she said, she was going to call somebody and find out. 308 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:37,040 Well, was there any indication that the source of this light was on the ground? 309 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:41,040 Yeah, you could see right through the trees, you know, what trees there was. 310 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,040 Because I remember when I was driving, when we drove by, 311 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,040 I can't say maybe a half a mile, maybe a mile or maybe even less, 312 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,040 to that first hotel or, I don't know, what shirt it is, 313 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,040 on the left side road as you're going up to the path. 314 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,040 Yes. 315 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,040 That's about how far it was away, because it was on the right side, 316 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,040 and I just turned around from looking at it, 317 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,040 and then there was that lodge or whatever it was on the left-hand side. 318 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,040 That would be the first lodge heading west. 319 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,040 Right, it was, it's the old Swiss-looking hotel, 320 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,040 I'm not sure what it was, it was all lit up too, you know, all the lights were on. 321 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,040 But it's about a, I just, you know, good thing I looked at it and I turned around 322 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,040 and I remember looking right at that. 323 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:20,040 And so I spent about a mile away from that and about a half a mile in. 324 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,040 Well, then the object was giving off enough light so that you could see 325 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,040 that it was in the trees. 326 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,040 Oh, you may drove by, they couldn't miss it, 327 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,040 and help them seeing it. 328 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,040 I see. 329 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,040 Because they just, you know, the whole sky was lit up from it. 330 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,040 It was just, it was bright, you couldn't miss it. 331 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,040 Could you give any estimate on the size of that, 332 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,040 comparing it with something? 333 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:44,040 Well, that's, you know, that's, the only thing I could think of, 334 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,040 at the time, being so bright would be a skylight, 335 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,040 but it was even bigger than that I would think. 336 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,040 Of course, that was so, so, so damp and foggy, 337 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,040 or cloudy, I guess, that they foggiered more cloudy. 338 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,040 You could see it right in the clouds, it was, 339 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,040 the clouds were down low and you just, the light was right into it. 340 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,040 And it was bigger than a skylight, because that's the first intention I had, 341 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,040 was that, you know, they must be exploding or something, 342 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,040 and they were gripping light on what they were doing, 343 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,040 so they'd make any mistakes, you know, and they had to think of. 344 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,040 I said, well, it must be a gigantic skylight, 345 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,040 but it was straight up in the air and it wouldn't be doing any good. 346 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,040 Yes. 347 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:18,040 Well, in other words, this, this, the light which appeared to originate on the ground 348 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:22,040 was shining as a solid beam up into the sky. 349 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,040 Or was it just a reflection in the sky? 350 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,040 No, it looked, well, could be, I mean, it just, it was there, 351 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,040 when you look in the clouds, there was, there it was. 352 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,040 You could look through the trees and it was all white, 353 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,040 just like a bright light was on. 354 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,040 It was kind of, you know, like a radiation, it was just, you know, there. 355 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,040 I really didn't pay that much, you know, I was staring at it, you know, and stuff, 356 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,040 but I wasn't really thinking of what it could have been, you know, 357 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,040 I was just going, oh, yeah, look at that, you know, 358 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,040 because you couldn't help from this, 359 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,040 and anybody was on the freeway, they had to see it. 360 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,040 Yes. 361 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,040 It didn't reflect light into the vehicle did it? 362 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,040 No. 363 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,040 That wasn't that bright, okay. 364 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,040 And was this a steady light? 365 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:01,040 Uh, yeah, as far as I remember it was steady, yeah, up in the sky, 366 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,040 I paid more attention to Aaron, Karlie, my wife was, 367 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,040 and Alice were looking into the trees, 368 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,040 and I was just staring up there trying to figure out what the hell it could be. 369 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,040 Yes. 370 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,040 And, you know, then we kind of disappeared, 371 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,040 they'd light on the ground, because, you know, 372 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,040 I was looking up in the sky and Karlie, Alice said, 373 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,040 she was really paying attention to it, she was, oh, I can't see it. 374 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,040 And she said, turn around and look, you can see it right through the bushes again, 375 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,040 you know, the trees, you go see it, see it, and I turn around and I go, 376 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:29,040 oh, yeah, there it is, you know, and after that we lost sight of it again. 377 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,040 Uh-huh. 378 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,040 But it was definitely on the ground, because you can see, 379 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,040 she started pointing to me again to look behind me, 380 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:38,040 and in the car you can see it again, sitting down there. 381 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:43,040 Okay, I think that, uh, we'll just send a crew up there tomorrow 382 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,040 and look around and see if we can find anything. 383 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,040 Okay. 384 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,040 All right, thank you very much for talking to us, Steve. 385 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,040 Uh-huh, you bet. 386 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,040 Okay, bye. 387 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,040 Uh, yes, uh, who are you at now? 388 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,040 Uh, the UFO Reporting Center in Seattle. 389 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:01,040 Is that the, is that the one located in the Boingfield? 390 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:06,040 No, that would be the FAA Center in Boingfield. 391 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:12,040 This is a private organization, we've been in service in this part of the country for 20 years. 392 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:18,040 No, I have a listing here of several phone numbers that were given to me, 393 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:23,040 and I just wanted to fewer the people that, uh... 394 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,040 We are also known as Phenomenal Research. 395 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,040 Oh, yeah, yeah, that's the name that was given to me. 396 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,040 I think I've got your phone number down here somewhere. 397 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,040 Uh-huh. 398 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,040 Well, that's correct. 399 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:41,040 The strange part about it is that this particular object was on the ground when I first saw it. 400 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,040 Uh-huh. 401 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,040 It wasn't in the air. 402 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,040 Uh, there's a street intersection in Tacoma here. 403 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:52,040 The one with me is in Arturo, and one of them is a side street that goes off, and it's a dead end, 404 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:58,040 and it happened to be more in the shadows of the main street that I was on. 405 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:03,040 As I approached that intersection, it just happened to glance to the left, 406 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:10,040 and, uh, here on the ground appeared to be what I thought was a lantern burning. 407 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:15,040 Uh, it didn't have a big light. 408 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,040 It didn't have a bright light. 409 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:20,040 It was more like a lantern that somebody had left burning that. 410 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:24,040 Uh, by the time I saw it, I called it to my western kitchen. 411 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,040 Just about that time, it started to rise off the ground. 412 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:36,040 And the glow from it, as near as I could describe it, 413 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:41,040 the glow from it showed a frame like a fair. 414 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:49,040 Uh, I could distinguish what looked like a thin pole for thin poles, 415 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:57,040 and, uh, in a sort of a box-like contraption that would resemble a box kite in the vertical position, 416 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:01,040 but it had no, it had no covering over it. 417 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,040 Yes. 418 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:09,040 In other words, it appeared to be transparent, but I could detect the shadows of something that looked like four poles, 419 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:16,040 maybe the size of my, uh, maybe thumb or something like that, you know, about an inch in diameter, if they were round, I don't know. 420 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:21,040 Uh, I mean, the first thought I was, I would say about 60 feet from it. 421 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:25,040 Uh, I paced it off about 20, 25 paces, 422 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:29,040 approximately 55, 60 feet from it on the ground. 423 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:37,040 And, uh, it was probably about six feet high at the most, between five and six feet high at the most. 424 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,040 That is the frame like a fair. 425 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:45,040 And I would judge about two or two and a half feet in diameter, although I didn't know whether it was round or square, 426 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,040 because I couldn't detect, I couldn't detect any covering on it. 427 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,040 Yes. 428 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:56,040 Well, the minute I saw it, and I called it to my western kitchen, it began to rise off the ground. 429 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:05,040 And since we were, it was to our left, I rolled maybe 20 feet more and put on the brick and pulled over to the side. 430 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,040 Life went on one door and I went on the other. 431 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:15,040 And it was rising, of course, and it was rising, uh, right over our heads. 432 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:20,040 In other words, it drifted over our heads going in a suddenly direction. 433 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:29,040 And, uh, it passed over, just about over our car, I would say, no more than, oh, no more than 30 feet over the car. 434 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,040 And I was able to look right up underneath it. 435 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:39,040 And the glow that I saw in the grutter resembled a lantern, actually in the air, uh, resembled two crossbars, 436 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:48,040 equal distance crossbars, which were glowing, about the color of, uh, bright ember caution light at night. 437 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,040 Yes. 438 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:58,040 And, uh, this thing, uh, there again, I estimated to be two to three feet in, either diameter or square, 439 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:04,040 but since I couldn't see no frame around it, no, no shape of it, I couldn't tell when it was around, 440 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,040 or square, there was no covering around it. 441 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:14,040 And it rose in a vertical position, but it went off on a tangent towards the southwest. 442 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:21,040 And it rose about the speed of a gas balloon that, uh, you let go at the fairgrounds. 443 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,040 Yes. 444 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,040 And it goes up into the sky. 445 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,040 That's about the speed to which it rose. 446 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:35,040 Well, uh, shortly after I stopped, another car stopped by the young seller from Fort Lewis, Bobby M. 447 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,040 And he asked me, what's that? 448 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,040 I said, this is a dart, if I know what it is. 449 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:46,040 And then, a minute or two later, a couple of young kids came running up from a couple blocks away. 450 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:53,040 They pointed in the direction where they came from, and they said that they had seen it close to their place, 451 00:23:53,040 --> 00:24:00,040 and it had gone over some houses and disappeared from view from their view, uh, and over some trees, 452 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,040 and they couldn't see it. 453 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:07,040 And you were running in the direction, and it had gone, and evidently it had gone in the direction to where I saw it, 454 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:13,040 and it had come down onto the ground again, and then it took off where I saw it. 455 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:20,040 But, uh, all of us watched it go, and, uh, maybe watched it for three or four minutes, 456 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:25,040 and then I got to the ocean, all of a sudden I should get to a phone and call up the court Air Force Base, 457 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:31,040 because it was drifting off in their direction, and in southwest from where we were, 458 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:38,040 and, um, uh, I figured that maybe they could pick it up on radar, or maybe send the plane up. 459 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:44,040 Well, I live about a mile and a half from the location that I saw it, and everything went dark around there, 460 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:52,040 because it was 12.30 at night, and, um, I, uh, told my wife to get in the car, and it spoke, 461 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,040 and I haven't even darkened, I didn't want to follow in somebody's door in the middle of the night, 462 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,040 and ask them to use a phone, because it probably wouldn't anyway. 463 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,040 Right. 464 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:05,040 So, um, we drove home, uh, quite hastily, and, uh, on the way home, 465 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:10,040 and I looked back, and actually I made a right-hand turn, and was going down away from it, 466 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,040 but when I looked back, I could still distinguish it in the sky, 467 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:19,040 and it was glowing with the same intensity that it did, uh, when it passed over my head. 468 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:25,040 Uh, there was no fire, no heat, no sparks, uh, I'll say there was heat, I don't know, 469 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,040 I couldn't, uh, I didn't get that closer, but there was no sparks, there was no fire, 470 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:35,040 it's as far as a flame-like affair, there was no smoke, there was no motion, 471 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:45,040 excepting that, uh, rising on a tangent, and, uh, I got to the phone, 472 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,040 and of course I had someone getting through to the right party at the court, 473 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,040 and after I got through to what I thought was the right party, he said, 474 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:56,040 well, I'll give, I'll call alert and tell them about it, 475 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:01,040 and, uh, he didn't even seem interested in taking my neighbor's phone number, although I gave it to him, 476 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,040 and, uh, that was that. 477 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,040 I went back to the location where I had seen it take off the ground, 478 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,040 shortly after that I took a bright light with me, 479 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,040 and I showed the headlights on the spot where it had been sitting, 480 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,040 but I couldn't see a thing on the ground, 481 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:22,040 and it indicated anything like, burners, smoke carrier, anything. 482 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:28,040 Yes, actually, actually it was, it was in the, in the middle of a street that was a dead-end street, 483 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:37,040 but, uh, not very well used, and, uh, it was about, like I say, about 60 feet from the left side of the, 484 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,040 the right side of the artisan that I was traveling on. 485 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:47,040 The next day I tried to contact the court and see if I could get some information from them 486 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:52,040 on what they had seen or done, but I couldn't even get through to the same party that I had talked to. 487 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,040 Of course, I was calling in the daytime, and this had happened, 488 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,040 and late at night maybe the same crews were on, different crews were on at that time, 489 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,040 and I don't know. 490 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:09,040 I called the tribune to see if, uh, if there had been other reporting of, uh, some were denied, 491 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:15,040 and they said that a man had reported seeing something in the far-off distance about 10.30 that night 492 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:22,040 that he couldn't figure out what it was, and it was sort of a bright light, but, uh, that's all the tribune knew about it. 493 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,040 I see. 494 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:30,040 They didn't, uh, well, on the next day, uh, a reporter called me and asked me all kinds of questions about it, 495 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:35,040 and, uh, oh, any number of questions, and what did he apply? 496 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:40,040 I don't know, he didn't ask me questions, I'm telling you, I know, 497 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,040 but he asked me all kinds of questions, and he was really interested in so far, 498 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:49,040 but, uh, I don't think, I think he just dropped it to figure out just another one of those things. 499 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:55,040 But, uh, this is something that, uh, I very definitely saw, and very definitely experienced, 500 00:27:55,040 --> 00:28:01,040 and, uh, I puzzled at what it is, and I'm not, uh, staying awake at night trying to figure it out, 501 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,040 but at the same time it's quite a puzzle. 502 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,040 Okay, was that Dead End Street inspected during the daylight hours? 503 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,040 I did, yes, I went back during the daytime. 504 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,040 And nothing was found? 505 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:16,040 Nothing, nothing was found or seen, and, I mean, uh, there was absolutely nothing to indicate that, uh, 506 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,040 this particular object had been there the night before. 507 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,040 Are there quite a few homes there? 508 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:25,040 Well, there's homes, uh, in that area, but, uh, there's sort of a brushy, 509 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,040 small brushy area between the homes and the areas. 510 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,040 I see. What street was that? 511 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:37,040 Well, the street that I was on is, uh, was South 56th Street, uh, between Pacific Avenue and, uh, McKinley Avenue. 512 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,040 Pacific, uh, 56th Street runs east and west. 513 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,040 Uh-huh. 514 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,040 I mean, for many winter clothes. 515 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,040 Uh, slightly, yes. 516 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:51,040 Well, Pacific Avenue runs almost north and south, and McKinley Avenue, we live on, runs almost north and south. 517 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,040 Uh-huh. 518 00:28:52,040 --> 00:29:03,040 Well, the 56th Street is an arterial between those two, and, uh, it was, uh, at 56th and B Street. 519 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:09,040 Now, B Street is a dead-end street on the left going east. 520 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:17,040 Uh, on the right, uh, it is not B Street at all because there's a jogging there, and there's a big church on the left. 521 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,040 I see. 522 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:23,040 But it passed over our car, and it passed over, and the church went off in the south of the direction. 523 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:30,040 This was a 1230th night at the tap that I saw it, and, uh, it was a rather clear night. 524 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,040 I can see a long distance. 525 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,040 About how long, uh, did you observe the object? 526 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:40,040 Well, I see we watched it for, uh, three, four, five minutes. 527 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,040 Uh-huh. 528 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:48,040 Did you by any chance get the names of the, uh, other people who had stopped or the youngster that came up to the scene? 529 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,040 I wished I had. I did not. 530 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,040 Okay. 531 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,040 That's something I, uh, would have to say. 532 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,040 It probably never will in my lifetime ever happen again, but it never does, boss. I'm sure. 533 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,040 It's just names. 534 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:04,040 My wife and I are the only ones that's been truly collaborated. 535 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,040 But these two boys, or this group of boys, uh, stated that the object had- 536 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,040 Just two boys. 537 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,040 Uh-huh. That it had apparently landed where you had first seen it then. 538 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,040 Uh-huh. Yeah. 539 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,040 Well, the two boys came running and they said they pointed off in that direction. 540 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,040 We lived down there. We had, so we shot down there, and they, we couldn't tell what it was. 541 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,040 They came running in the direction that they saw it go. 542 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:35,040 So obviously it hovered over, or passed over the houses rather low, and then it, uh, it went down again onto B Street where I shot. 543 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,040 Okay. 544 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,040 And that was about 10 p.m. when you first started it. 545 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,040 It was 1230. 546 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,040 1230. 547 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:48,040 Yeah. This other fellow that, uh, told the Tribune that he had saw it had seen something. 548 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,040 He said he saw it around 1030, that thing. 549 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,040 About 1030. 550 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:57,040 Now, whether he saw the same thing or not, I don't know, because he didn't see it close. He saw it far away in the sky. 551 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,040 Right. 552 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,040 And did you get the name of our organization from a source in Tacoma? 553 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:09,040 Well, it so happened that the next day after, well, this, this was a 1230 night and about 4 in the afternoon, that same day. 554 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,040 This is 1230 in the morning, I should say. 555 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,040 Yes. 556 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,040 P.M. 557 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,040 P.M. 558 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:21,040 4, about 4 o'clock that same day, I called the court to see if I could get any information, and they couldn't give me no information at all. 559 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:28,040 And they suggested that I call Washington, uh, Washington State, uh, Civil Defense and Olympia. 560 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:34,040 Now, why I don't know what they did. So I called Washington State Civil Defense and Olympia. 561 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:40,040 Some girl answered the phone down there and she said, oh, we don't handle anything like that anymore. 562 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:47,040 And I don't know if they ever did, but she said, uh, she said, I can give you the phone number of some people to call. 563 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:53,040 And she mentioned, uh, she mentioned your, your, your group, a lot of our research. 564 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,040 Uh-huh. 565 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:59,040 When that number, she gave me that number, P.O. Boxing, D.O.7, I think. 566 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:08,040 And she also gave me the name of a number of Washington State, uh, Center for U.S. Post Studies and Fort Renton. 567 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:14,040 And, uh, Washington State are not exploring in Fio, Seattle. 568 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:20,040 Uh, I didn't call either, either one of these. 569 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:25,040 Because I thought that, uh, maybe the reporter would do something about it. 570 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:31,040 Uh, once, he, uh, when he was calling us the following day, he asked, of course, all kinds of questions. 571 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:38,040 And I told him who I had called and the names that I had gotten from Washington Civil Defense and one of them was yours. 572 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,040 He said he was going to follow it up, but I don't think he ever did. 573 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,040 And he never got a call from him to do it. 574 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,040 No. 575 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:51,040 Well, that is the situation as it stood, and I just left it that way. 576 00:32:51,040 --> 00:33:01,040 It's a, uh, it's a peculiar situation as far as I'm concerned, because, uh, until now I was neither a believer nor a disbeliever. 577 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,040 I just figured that maybe it's so, maybe it isn't so. 578 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,040 You know, you just don't dwell on the subject. 579 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:11,040 And even today, I don't dwell on it because, uh, whatever it is, it is. 580 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,040 And that's all there is to it. 581 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:17,040 I can't, uh, I can't, I don't have the answer to the mystery. 582 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:24,040 And, uh, I'm not, as I said, I don't, but the time to lay a week at night, right? 583 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,040 Keep a week at night trying to solve a mystery that isn't solvable as far as I'm concerned. 584 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,040 True. 585 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,040 Okay. 586 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:37,040 It's been a puzzle and, uh, I can assure you we weren't drinking. 587 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,040 Well, we sure appreciate, uh... 588 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,040 It's a question everybody's been asking me. 589 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,040 Every time we talk about it, what you have to drink. 590 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,040 Oh, yes. 591 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,040 Well, that's common. 592 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,040 Uh... 593 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:51,040 We sure appreciate your talking to us, and if we get any additional information on this, we'll let you know. 594 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,040 Well, I would be very much interested in additional information. 595 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,040 What is your name? 596 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,040 Uh, Bob Gribble, G-R-I-B-B-L-E. 597 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:04,040 You know, I think that's the name I got from the... 598 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,040 All right. 599 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,040 When I get that name, wait a minute, let me look through it. 600 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,040 And that name written down here someplace. 601 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,040 Phenomenal research, Robert Gribble. 602 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,040 Uh-huh. 603 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,040 That's right. 604 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:21,040 That's the name that was given to me by this office, and I'll look it. 605 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,040 All right. 606 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,040 So, every day, they know you people. 607 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,040 Very good. 608 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,040 They know about you. 609 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,040 That's great. 610 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,040 Uh-huh. 611 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,040 Well, I thank you again, sir. 612 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,040 Okay. 613 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,040 All right. 614 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,040 Good night. 615 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,040 Good night. 616 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,040 Good night. 617 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,040 Good night. 618 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,040 Good night. 619 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,040 Good night. 620 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,040 Good night. 621 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,040 Good night. 622 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,040 Good night. 623 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,040 Good night. 624 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,040 Good night. 625 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,040 Good night. 626 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,040 Good night. 627 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,040 Good night. 628 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,040 Good night. 629 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,040 Good night. 630 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,040 Good night. 631 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,040 Good night. 632 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,040 Good night. 633 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,040 Good night. 634 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,040 Good night. 635 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,040 Good night. 636 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,040 Good night. 637 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,040 Good night. 638 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,040 Good night. 639 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,040 Good night. 640 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,040 Good night. 641 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,040 Good night. 642 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,040 Good night. 643 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,040 Good night.